In it i pegged eastwoods sidearm as an 1858 remington cartridge conversion, but according to an article in the new issue of american rifleman by angus mcclellan, it was an 1851 colt navy conversion in. Colt 1860 army conversion revolver liveauctioneers. Cartridge conversion installation and heel base bullet reloading tools and supplies all in a convenient one stop shopping experience. While we call this a conversion out of habit, the serial number on this gun would indicate that it was originally assembled at the factory as a cartridge gun. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia forgotten.
It shoots very nicely, a little high at 25 yards but. So most were built using pocket navy and police models. Colt richards conversion 1860 army forgotten weapons. Howell old west conversions cylinders and back plates are made from certified 4150 arsenal grade steel for insuring strength and durability. The police was in 36 caliber with a five shot rebated and half fluted cylinder. This conversion cylinder will allow you to convert your 1851 navy or 1860 army pietta. In the book he adequately addresses the model 1853 as being a misnomer and further states that it had to have been produced after the colt pocket police.
It derived its name from being produced in paterson, nj. The first metallic cartridge revolver made by colt was the thuerconversion model revolver, a design that would not require a cylinder with cylindrical chambers so as not to infringe on the rollin white patent. Since it was offered both on new built revolvers and as an alteration of customers personal revolvers, no hard numbers on the total thuer population. Colt model 1862 police cartridge conversion revolver. Also very desirable as it has an iron backstrap and trigger guard and it is not english proofed. The smaller versions of colts first revolvers are also called baby patersons by collectors and were produced first in. It is necessary to move a small lever to eject the empty casings. Colt developed a series of designs that could be used to convert an existing percussion gun to a cartridge revolver. This is a richards conversion based on the 1860 army colt. A small number about 1500 of model 1851 navy revolvers was converted, using frontloaded, slightly. Uberti cartridge revolvers are true replicas of original historical designs. Get more enjoyment out your revolver by having more options.
Revolvers made prior to 2002 may need to have the cylinder fitted by howell arms. The 1860 army conversion required the resurrection of an old cartridge, the. It was the first commercial repeating firearm to employ a revolving cylinder with multiple chambers aligned with a single, stationary barrel. Blue book has a black powder book that contains a lot more information, and i think more sn information. Factory engraved colt 4 12inch 38 caliber colt model. Colt pocket model 1865 of navy caliber percussion revolver.
It fits my hand ok, but is a bit small in the grips. Uberti a singleaction open top colt navy revolver the colt revolving belt pistol of naval caliber i. Hollowbased bullets must be used in the conversion. Could blondie have had such a gun in 1862, the ostensible date of the movie, when everyone else was using cap and ball. Colt 1860 army richards cartridge conversion revolver. National firearms museum senior curator phil schreier in a clip from the last curators corner of july 2012. The 1860 army conversion required the resurrection. Dec 18, 20 shooting and showing the navy colt richards mason cartridge conversion, as well as giving an overview of the cartridge conversion revolvers of the 1860s and 1870s. These 4150 arsenal grade steel conversions are dropin style that allow the shooter to still shoot with their original black powder cylinder. Manufactured from 1861 until approximately 1873, it was designed in response to the demand for pocket pistols by both civilians and the police force. And 1860 army model 19942002 by colt black powder arms co. Bruce mcdowell who wrote the conversion book some y. Even though sam colt died in 1862, colt continued to concentrate on percussion revolvers as well they might since they had a large government contract for the 1860 army. Jul 29, 2012 national firearms museum senior curator phil schreier in a clip from the last curators corner of july 2012.
The colt 1862 police percussion revolver is considered by many collectors as the epitome in development of the cap and ball revolvers. So the gun in boges link is one of those, built brand new at colt as a. The single largest batch of altered, converted or remanufactured revolvers were in the 1862 police and pocket navy sizes, all altered to. To keep things simpler for todays shooters, the cimarron cartridge conversions are supplied with the 1851 navy using standard. This is a great reference for conversion revolvers of all types.
Colt would have better done to listen to white instead of transferring it. It shoots very nicely, a little high at 25 yards but not nearly as much as the large frame colts. These were phenomenally popular guns, but quickly becoming obsolete in the face of. The roll engraving on the black powder cylinder is also available on the conversion cylinder. I found the pocket pistols much too small for my long fingers and gave both the pistol and the book to a friend on the other side of the country. Not the best colt in that department for my personal specs. The cartridge it fired became known as the 44 colt. All models of their original series conversion cylinders are designed for use with either. This is a very early gun being serial number 651 and has a hartford barrel address. This example has the 4 12 inch octagon barrel without an ejector. I like the colt conversions with ejection rod very much and just wonder why i do see 1862 police pockets, 1851 and 1860 models with and without the ejector rods and loading gates but i cant seem to find a single picture of a real antique 1849 pocket with ejector rod. The colt model 1862 police percussion revolver was manufactured from 1861 through to circa 1873 in their own serial range from serial number 1 through to approx. As metalliccased cartridges became more and more popular as well as already available, some 70% of colt model 1862 police revolvers were converted to fire the new ammunition. Historical holsters old west leather, buckles, cowboy.
Oct 22, 2010 in it i pegged eastwoods sidearm as an 1858 remington cartridge conversion, but according to an article in the new issue of american rifleman by angus mcclellan, it was an 1851 colt navy conversion in. The various conversion systems used by colt are known as the thuer, followed by. The cylinder was cut down to remove the nipple area at the rear, and a new ratchet was formed. It is now more correctly termed as the heading or as the pocket. Factory engraved colt 4 12inch 38 caliber colt model 1862. Manufactured 1863 and was among the approximately 24,000 revolvers converted for use with 38 caliber metallic cartridges. The left side of the frame is marked with the twolinetwodate patent information, and 36 cal. Colt revolvers conversion 18671878 colt revolvers antique sellers information when emailing or calling sellers direct, please mention that you saw their listing on seller. Sn range not stated these are, i think, the signature models. After the arrival of that first cartridge firing revolver colt would produce the 1860 army. The colt model 1862 police conversion was intended for security personnel and followed the line of other colt products emerging during this time of history. Police 1862 model pocket models percussion revolvers.
The numbers of thuer conversions made are uncertain, simply because there were so many possible models. A stunning little 62 police cartridge conversion utilizing the pocket navy solid cylinder. Conversion cylinders taylors conversion cylinder line offers an easy conversion option from black powder to smokeless ammunition. Please click on the more information button for more details and to read the caution statements. The gunsmith also had a spare barrel with a defect far down its 8. The top barrel flat is marked with the oneline new york u. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia forgotten weapons. Originally for an 1860 colt richards cartridge conversion. It is not actually a percussion gun which was converted. Colt produced 24,000 cartridge revolvers on this midsized frame between 1873 and 1881, with at least 5 model variations and configurations. Between 1862 and 1873, colt records document production of 19,000 of the pocket navies and over 20,000 pocket police revolvers. While it covers colt revolvers thoroughly, it also includes many of the other revolvers of that period. It is now more correctly termed as the heading or as the pocket model of navy caliber or merely pocket navy.
Colt model 1862 police cartridge conversion for sale. Samuel colt was born in hartford, connecticut on july 19, 1814. They simply machined the frames for the rebated cylinder and built them as new. However, colt also used up their supply of unfinished, prenumbered 1849 parts. The family of colt pocket percussion revolvers evolved from the earlier commercial revolvers marketed by the patent arms manufacturing company of paterson, n. Holster with belt rig knife, bowie style with stag handle and nickel hilt. The reclassified colt pocket model 1865 of navy caliber percussion revolver or pocket navy was previously known to collectors as the model of 1853 or the model 1862 pocket navy.
Only around 2000 of these were done at the factory. Colt converted the models army 1860, navy 1851 and 1861, pocket 1849, pocket off navy caliber, police 1862. About 28,000 were produced but, because they shared serial numbering with the 1862 pocket navy, specimens will be found with serial numbers through about 47000. Colt, like all the other manufacturers in the us, was prevented from making cartridge revolvers by the rollin white patent, which finally expired in 1869. We are extremely proud to offer this seldom seen early colt rimfire cartridge 1862 police made with the fluted cylinder. This left them limited to their percussion revolvers, the 1849, 1851, 1860, and 1862 models in particular. One of the hidden gems of research pate uncovered is that colts death in 1862, and a devastating factory fire two years later were not the. Conversion cylinders if your not sure about which cylinder will best fit your needs give old south a call and we will do our best to answer your questions. They are built with stateoftheart materials, so you can enjoy safe and reliable performance with modern ammunition. The model 1862 police revolver was made from 1861 through c. Attractive colt 1862 conversion type ii fitted with a 4 12 inch barrel, onepiece wood grips.
Colt produced 24,000 cartridge revolvers on this midsized frame between 1873 and 1881. Colt guns colt conversions page 1 collectors firearms. Colt offered it as a conversion on the 1849 pocket, 1851 and 1861 navy, 1860 army by far the most common version, pocket pistol of navy caliber. In thuer conversion, the empty casing is ejected by before barrel while striking.
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